Discuss California’s Proposition Results

I'm shocked and apalled by the Prop 8 results. What is wrong with allowing two people that love each other to get married? Live your own lives people.

People are more concerned with others' lives than their own, but only when it's preventing others from living thier lives.

what a blow that would have been to california kids if this had passed. the family unit can breathe easy now.

I'm proud of Californians for having SOME values left in their systems.

If you really think that telling your kids that two people of the same sex are married is going to scar them for life, you are a bad parent.

i'm with kristen, it's your job as a parent to explain the world to your children. like it or now, they're going to find out that people are gay. OH NO!

At least my eggs won't have beaks in them anymore.

All hail the supertrain! I just need to wait until 2090 for it to extend to Santa Monica

we got the black president, funny how all things can't progress at once.

I really thought prop 8 was going to be a blowout for no. I live near some ignorant people.

I'm a fine parent, there's enough craziness to take in when you enter the world already. It's easier to explain gay relationships to a 10 year old than a confused 4 year old.

Maybe if the gay people in question had better parents, they wouldn't need to worry about any of this.

Wow Thom, that may be the most ignorant thing I've ever read on the internet. Congrats

And Massachusetts stays one step ahead of California. YES!

Prop 8 passing makes me sad

one giant step for chickens, one giant leap back for homosexuals

Marriage is defined as a man and woman, all faith based leaders agree! Thanks to the support of ProtectMarriage(dot)com we made it happen!!!

Keep that gay shit in San Fran!!

Thom you are not smart enough to find your way out of the house to vote, so I'm not sure how you managed to turn on a computer.

Liberal whiners are never happy. Take the presidency and move on.

I'm a kindergarten teacher and I'm not ready to explain gay marriage to my students. Sorry, they have enough to take in as it is.

HoNo- are you really that stupid! It's the 21st Century, get used to it!

Hey Kelly, it's the real world! Parents have to explain to their children when they see a gay couple together, most LA parents know gay couples. it's part of kids lives, why is that so difficult for you to get.

as a gay man I'm appalled at a lot of the opinions I hear regarding this matter, but I'm used to it. The fight continues.

A note to all those who voted yes on 8, housing is a lot cheaper in the deep south. Think of all you could own down there. You could even own people. It's true.

LOL@ Liam, sadly it is true. Why pay so much for a house that's going to be near a bunch of crazy marryin' gays?

This is a sad day for myself and many of my friends. While I want to cheer at how far we've come to elect a black man as president, the fact that we can't accept that same sex people love each other and want to declare that is unbelievable.

I'm confused, does this mean all of the current married couples aren't married anymore?

I think they're in limbo now, we'll see what happens to them. I'm curious to see what happens to their health benefits and visitation rights.

That is crazy. Was that part of prop 8 or was it just whether or not it could be called "marriage"?

it was my understanding that it was just using the term marriage, or else i would have voted differently

If people actually read through the propositions before voting, the outcome would probably have been different. Lazy voting kills rights.

honestly i voted no on 8 because it doesn't affect me. if you think it does affect you, you have to realign your priorities.

I thought the presidency was a good lithmus test for how smart a state was as a whole, perhaps prop 8 was a little better.

we're ready for CHANGE! but not that much change.

Since 50% of marriages end up in divorce anyway, I see no reason why gay couples should be denied that right...they can't do any worse than us straights.

Yeah this country is very one step at a time toward change. If I had to choose I'm glad Obama got this step.

YES WE CAN!

but NOT YOU CAN'T! (if you're gay)

I firmly believe that this Dem. majority will convert our country to a place that can accept things like gay marriage.

Why do people even care who gets married! Worry about yourselves instead!

I'll be celebrating with the chickens!

while the high speed rail seems like a good idea, it's going to be a complete disaster. traffic will get worse to make it better.

You gotta stop it now! I mean what's next legalizing inter-species marriage like in Clerks 2! LOL!!!

so are we going to see an increase in crime due to No on 6? yeah that'd be great.

like the cops do anything to help now..

I'm disgusted that more of the California population cares about the rights of farm animals than those of HUMAN BEINGS! Disgusted.

I love the lack of cops in LA, I have never received a speeding ticket in the 17 years I have lived here.

I voted yes on 8, let's not let this country go to total anarchy, it's bad enough as it is.

i just don't know what i'd do with myself if i were allowed to freely act the way i feel! thank you for keeping my life in check!

we should have scientists explain homosexuality to us before we start passing laws to support it

Mormons can all go eat a dick.

WHAT DID YOU SAY TO ME!? I am glad about prop 8 by the way, but I don't think there's a correlation.

No correlation? That child-fucking Indian space cult spent millions of dollars promoting Prop 8. To hell with anybody who wants to enshrine discrimination in a constitution.

John, you're displaying the same amount of ignorance that you are accusing the Mormon church of. You need a reality check son.

I thought I told you to go eat a dick.

I woke up to the sound of dueling banjos. It's as if I went to sleep in Southern California and woke up in the deep south.

Our children will look back on this day and reflect on how far they have come from our backwards, ignorant present.

Romney,

It's a clear violation of civil rights to deem one thing appropriate for one group and something entirely differnet f or another, I guess gay is the NEW black. Oh yea, eat a dick.

This whole prop 8 thing has gotten my blessed gay banana hammock in a bunch

I can't tell if Robert is pro or Anti Obama, but when they look back they're going to see the first black president, not a vote against gay marriage.

way to keep it in the highbrow John. you can go back to your video games now

Jesus, John. Leave Romney alone. Finding a temple worthy dick to eat is going to take some time, since he'll have to pull it out of some unwilling, 13 year old bride. That's not easy, ok?

Yeah, it's really highbrow to hybridize the Constitution with the KJV. Can I do the other cool shit the bible talks about, like owning slaves and stoning women to death if they don't clean up after their periods?

And, not to belabor the point, but go eat a dick.

Marriage is between a man and a woman. Homosexuals are more than welcome to come up with a term for their own unions, but marriage has been taken.

I just hope this doesn't keep those fags from having sex. Because god knows I love seeing two women get it on and the last thing I want is to go back to the sears catalog.

Oh wow! Terrance! You're the guy in charge of the English language? It's an honor to meet you!

OK fine marriage is for a man and a woman just like fried chicken and watermelon is for blacks. Now if we could just pass a law outlawing interracial marriage because they make ugly people.

Terrance, so happy to meet you!!! I have a few grammar questions I need you to answer. For example, if I wanted to tell you that "you're a fucking douchebag," do I use an apostrophe in you're? And is douchebag one word or two? Thanks!!!!!!

Anyone else notice that since Prop 2 passed Chickens have MORE rights than Gay People in California now?

Joy, I'm pro-Obama and I don't want to take away from his and our country's accomplishment in electing him.

But I feel that locally the victory of Obama being elected President is overshadowed by the humiliating defeat of bigotry, hate, lies & ignorance being used to discriminate against people.

OMG! So that means if Prop 8 had failed, the MORMONS WOULD EAT US!
We dodged a bullet, gang!

Steve, chickens can get married now????

Wait, are you saying that gay people have to stay in cages until we eat them?

Please clarify

I DONT VOTE AND NEVER WILL, BUT THOSE THINGS NEVER MATTER TO ME ANY, THE RESULTS ALWAYS THE SAME. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THEM RUNNING BUT I JUST DONT CARE ABOUT POLITICS THINGS

I disagree with anyone who says "Obama is the right guy for the job".

Obama has not completed ANYTHING in his years as a Senator, and his views are way too radical and far too Socialist. If Obama wins, he'll turn the USA into the USSA (United SOCIALIST States of America) cuz he wants to raise taxes, which will cause more jobs to be sent overseas, and more people will become jobless and homeless.

The ONLY way to rescue the country from this financial crisis is to REDUCE OR REMOVE ALL INCOME TAXES from individuals AND companies. When people get to keep more of their paychecks, they are more likely to spend more money, which is what makes an economy work. Prices on products are too high because of taxes, and most people don't have enough money to be able to buy the things they need (food, clothing, housing, utilities...), and certainly not enough for the things they want (new TV, new car, new computer, new furniture...).

Obama will make American into another Russia, very few people having money except his Socialist Democrat friends, and very few people having jobs (and certainly almost no major employers left because of the taxes they would be forced to pay)

Anyone who would use the power of their vote to deny a fellow citizen his or her rights doesn't deserve to call themselves an American. Further, I would like to hear a reasoned argument why the families and children of gay parents are somehow "less than" those of straight.

It is a hateful piece of legislation that serves no purpose other than to belittle and deny a group of people. There isn't a single word, direct or implied, in the proposition that mandates what is taught in schools. As a parent, I see no problem with my daughter knowing or learning about about gay people. In fact I encourage it.

Seeing the majority of the No on 8 proponents were young people, I have every confidence that homophobia will die out along with those who propagate its bile.

Obama's bigoted supporters certainly fucked you in the ass. Fully 20% of Obama's supporters voted to deny you your civil rights.

When I talk about him being pigshit - this is what I"m talking about.

Why is it, California will give animals more rights than Gays? People should keep church and state separate, and keep your morals and your religion to yourself!

Are you people retarded? How do chickens have more freedom than gays? Gays don't live in cages they live in closets!

People, please! We were discussing Mormons, and how they can all go eat a dick. Let's focus.

I'm with all of the California proposition results.

Why is it so bad for two people who love each other to get married? It's not like the straight people got it right, over 50% of straight marriages end up in divorce.

Candice you hippie, pick me up some organic horse shit at trader joe's on your way home.

Oh, and why do wee need to spend 10 billion on a stupid train, when the schools in California suck

First of all RON I am not a hippie, I believe people have a right to marry whom ever they choose. I don't hate people, and it sounds like you do, ass hole

asshole is one word in America, you commie.

Good come back Ron, I feel stupid. And I bet you voted for McCain/Palin as well.

also, "comeback" is one word too. Look you, all learning and stuff.

John, really, rebelling on the internet. Good for you buddy! Stand up..er, sit down and fight! Click click click! You're making a difference my man!

I'm bored with you, so why don't you go pray to whatever it is you pray to, and ask for forgiveness on your hatred that you have for your fellow brother.

Candice is bored everyone, didn't take long to lose her attention

One more thing before I go Ron, I bet you would also not have this conversation face to face. So when you grow balls to go and make a difference then I will listen to you. I have to go save lives now. I'm a nurse.

If you weren't so lazy you could have been a doctor.

Yeah, I bet all you do is sit and play on your computer all day and act like a hard ass. God Bless you!

Candice you're confused, that's a mirror! Go lay down.

I can't believe that so few people in Orange County got off their asses to vote.

I'm psyched for Obama, and I know that No on Prop 8 will come with the change he is bringing.

Probably means that California isn't as progressive as you thought it was... Some things take a bit of time. You can't ram it through.

This is very nice post. thank you.

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

and likes blowjobs?


THIS GUY!!!!!!!

For all those people who think that those who voted against prop 8 don't have values, well guess what, we do; the difference is that we're not afraid of change or having our own opinion, gay marriage is bound to happen at some point, and children shouldn't be affected because they are innocent and don't think as adults; they have to get used to dealing with different situations, they are the future. It's the only way them to grow tolerant. We would avoid hate crimes!!!!

Religion and politics. That's all I have to say.

I think these results should change both CA and the nation's ideas about CA. People still think of this state as a hippie paradise - the truth is, there are a huge number of 1st generation americans here, and they aren't usually culturally liberal. I understand where the yes on 8 result came from. Thus far, every person I've heard from who supports it here in LA has been 1st generation. So really those who say it's a "deep south" mentality are thinking of the wrong "south". Think south of the border. Or even far east, for that matter.

Anyway, I just thought I'd float an idea here, even though it looks like much of the bickering is already over. I voted no on 8, but since then I've been converted over to the thinking that no one should be legally married. What I mean is, because marriage is a religious title/process, it shou'dn't be regulated by the state since that crosses the "separation of church and state" guidline. Instead, the same rights given to marriage should be given to civil unions. Then all people who want to be tied in that manner can have a civil union legally, and marriage based on their personal religious affiliations. Likewise, any other things they wanted included/excluded from their civil union in regards to the marriage they can put into a pre-nuptial agreement.

So it makes more sense to me to fight for more rights for civil unions than to allow everyone to get married (something which shouldn't be administered by the state, in my current opinion).

To reiterate: Any Christian - the regular kind or the crazy Mormon kind - who voted Yes on Prop 8 is a thug. A stupid bully hiding behind a fairy tale.
If it comforts you to believe in your imaginary friend, that's fine. But don't expect me to listen to your insane ravings, or to abide by your neurotic rules.
I know teenage girls with eating disorders who could vote more sanely and responsibly than a "Christian."